Q&A with Sam Riley, who plays Ian Curtis in the Anton Corbijn directed Joy Division biopic Control

UNCUT: When was the first time you heard the name Ian Curtis?

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SAM RILEY: I was 18, just starting with my band 10,000 Things, playing a pub in Leeds. Under our name on the wall it said, โ€œIan Curtis fronts The Rolling Stonesโ€. Someone explained to me: โ€œYโ€™know, the ones who did โ€˜Love Will Tear Us Apartโ€™.โ€ So I immediately borrowed a copy of Unknown Pleasures and played โ€œTransmissionโ€ in the car a lot โ€“ yeah, the most obvious track!

But itโ€™s probably an advantage that Ian wasnโ€™t one of my idols. Now, obviously, I love Joy Division. But it would have meant added pressure. I have a lot of respect for him, not necessarily reverence. Itโ€™s a delicate balance. I definitely didnโ€™t try to play him as an icon.

Most young men arenโ€™t particularly charming, and he wasnโ€™t an ideal husband or father. The same goes for New Order โ€“ I donโ€™t blame them for not really spotting his problems. Young guys tend to ignore one another beneath the surface.

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As itโ€™s based on [Ianโ€™s wife] Deborah Curtisโ€™ book, hopefully itโ€™s fair.

He was a flawed individual. I can relate to that. Who canโ€™t?

So how did you land the part?

When my band were offered a deal, I told my agent I hated acting! Iโ€™d had one line as Mark E Smith in 24-Hour Party People, which was cut, after Iโ€™d auditioned as Stephen Morris! Anyway, after three years my band got dropped. I was working in a warehouse back in Leeds. Acting had to better than that, and by coincidence Anton was looking for someone likeโ€ฆ me.

Did you impersonate Curtis?

Well, while I was waiting I saw the guy auditioning before me go past the window dancing and shaking like Ian. I thought, โ€˜Fuckโ€™. So I ran downstairs to the toilet and practised the dance in the mirror. Anton tied an iPod to my arm and said, โ€œCan I see you move?โ€ Iโ€™d read that the likes of Jude Law were up for this, so thought I had no chance. Then they rang me on my 26th birthday โ€“ January 8, same birthday as Elvis and Bowie, which as a kid I thought might โ€œmeanโ€ something โ€“ to tell me that Iโ€™d got it.

How anxious are you and Anton about the reaction to the film from Joy Division fans?

Theyโ€™re sceptical before seeing it, I can understand that. When they announced Iโ€™d got the part, I went on a Joy Division online forum, which was pretty stupid of me. It was all: โ€œWhat the fuck? Who is this? Doesnโ€™t look anything like him! Heโ€™s a singer in a shit band! Is he American? Why didnโ€™t they get Christopher Eccleston?โ€

While I knew I couldnโ€™t please everybody, this was the best opportunity anyone had ever given me, and I wasnโ€™t about to turn it down out of risk of upsetting people. Ian is precious to people, almost like a saint, and they donโ€™t want to see somebody come in and ruin it. But I knew Anton wouldnโ€™t follow the usual formula: itโ€™s a film about a young man, not a rock star. Even icons go to the toilet! New Order love it. Bernard Sumnerโ€™s advice to me was: โ€œHave fun, we did.โ€ If illusions get shattered, thatโ€™s real life.

The live performances are very powerful. Wasnโ€™t the original plan to mime?

Yes, but weโ€™d rehearsed so hard, we were desperate to play. Itโ€™d be

more convincing that way. OK I donโ€™t have the exact voice, or moves, but weโ€™re trying to get the essence of this band, not an identikit. We werenโ€™t just a bunch of poncey actors clocking in. We were also lucky that Joy Division were never the tightest band live! When I first heard the bootlegs I couldnโ€™t believe it. Iโ€™m sure Bernardโ€™s playing a different song from Hooky most of the time! Some of the extras had come all the way from America.

One guy in the front row says, โ€œAre you Ian?โ€ Which is a weird question anyway. He glares at me: โ€œThisโ€™d better be fucking good.โ€ Another guy lifts his shirt and heโ€™s got Ianโ€™s face tattooed, life-size, across his chest. No pressure, then. I was terrified. But we wanted to show them we were taking it seriously. As far as we were concerned, during takes, we were Joy Division up there.

How did you deal with the more harrowing scenes within the Curtis marriage?

Thank God Samantha Morton was there for both me and Anton: neither of us knew how to approach rehearsals at first, but she brought such experience and dedication, and was lovely.

INTERVIEW by CHRIS ROBERTS