Q&A with Sam Riley, who plays Ian Curtis in the Anton Corbijn directed Joy Division biopic Control
UNCUT: When was the first time you heard the name Ian Curtis?
SAM RILEY: I was 18, just starting with my band 10,000 Things, playing a pub in Leeds. Under our name on the wall it said, โIan Curtis fronts The Rolling Stonesโ. Someone explained to me: โYโknow, the ones who did โLove Will Tear Us Apartโ.โ So I immediately borrowed a copy of Unknown Pleasures and played โTransmissionโ in the car a lot โ yeah, the most obvious track!
But itโs probably an advantage that Ian wasnโt one of my idols. Now, obviously, I love Joy Division. But it would have meant added pressure. I have a lot of respect for him, not necessarily reverence. Itโs a delicate balance. I definitely didnโt try to play him as an icon.
Most young men arenโt particularly charming, and he wasnโt an ideal husband or father. The same goes for New Order โ I donโt blame them for not really spotting his problems. Young guys tend to ignore one another beneath the surface.
As itโs based on [Ianโs wife] Deborah Curtisโ book, hopefully itโs fair.
He was a flawed individual. I can relate to that. Who canโt?
So how did you land the part?
When my band were offered a deal, I told my agent I hated acting! Iโd had one line as Mark E Smith in 24-Hour Party People, which was cut, after Iโd auditioned as Stephen Morris! Anyway, after three years my band got dropped. I was working in a warehouse back in Leeds. Acting had to better than that, and by coincidence Anton was looking for someone likeโฆ me.
Did you impersonate Curtis?
Well, while I was waiting I saw the guy auditioning before me go past the window dancing and shaking like Ian. I thought, โFuckโ. So I ran downstairs to the toilet and practised the dance in the mirror. Anton tied an iPod to my arm and said, โCan I see you move?โ Iโd read that the likes of Jude Law were up for this, so thought I had no chance. Then they rang me on my 26th birthday โ January 8, same birthday as Elvis and Bowie, which as a kid I thought might โmeanโ something โ to tell me that Iโd got it.
How anxious are you and Anton about the reaction to the film from Joy Division fans?
Theyโre sceptical before seeing it, I can understand that. When they announced Iโd got the part, I went on a Joy Division online forum, which was pretty stupid of me. It was all: โWhat the fuck? Who is this? Doesnโt look anything like him! Heโs a singer in a shit band! Is he American? Why didnโt they get Christopher Eccleston?โ
While I knew I couldnโt please everybody, this was the best opportunity anyone had ever given me, and I wasnโt about to turn it down out of risk of upsetting people. Ian is precious to people, almost like a saint, and they donโt want to see somebody come in and ruin it. But I knew Anton wouldnโt follow the usual formula: itโs a film about a young man, not a rock star. Even icons go to the toilet! New Order love it. Bernard Sumnerโs advice to me was: โHave fun, we did.โ If illusions get shattered, thatโs real life.
The live performances are very powerful. Wasnโt the original plan to mime?
Yes, but weโd rehearsed so hard, we were desperate to play. Itโd be
more convincing that way. OK I donโt have the exact voice, or moves, but weโre trying to get the essence of this band, not an identikit. We werenโt just a bunch of poncey actors clocking in. We were also lucky that Joy Division were never the tightest band live! When I first heard the bootlegs I couldnโt believe it. Iโm sure Bernardโs playing a different song from Hooky most of the time! Some of the extras had come all the way from America.
One guy in the front row says, โAre you Ian?โ Which is a weird question anyway. He glares at me: โThisโd better be fucking good.โ Another guy lifts his shirt and heโs got Ianโs face tattooed, life-size, across his chest. No pressure, then. I was terrified. But we wanted to show them we were taking it seriously. As far as we were concerned, during takes, we were Joy Division up there.
How did you deal with the more harrowing scenes within the Curtis marriage?
Thank God Samantha Morton was there for both me and Anton: neither of us knew how to approach rehearsals at first, but she brought such experience and dedication, and was lovely.
INTERVIEW by CHRIS ROBERTS